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Old October 13th, 2003, 09:36 AM
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Buzz Aldrin's Moon Watch Might Be Found

This morning I got an interesting email from a Richard S. Van Dyke, Esq., who represents Stephen Morley in Morley v. United States. Here is the email I received:

"Excellent web site. By the way, Buzz Aldrin's Omega Speedmaster has been located and is the subject of a lawsuit now pending in the United States District Court for the Southern District of California (Morley v. United States of America). I am the attorney for the plaintiff who purchased the watch out of a local classified ad newspaper nearly ten years ago. See also yesterday's (10/12/2003) San Diego Union Tribune Newpaer feature article on this case.

"Best Regards,

/s/ Richard S. Van Dyke, Esq.

"ps. Don't look for the watch to be sold anytime soon on ebay...

"Richard S. Van Dyke, Esq.

"Van Dyke & Associates, Attorneys At Law
5741 Palmer Way, Suite B
Carlsbad, California 92008
Telephone: (760) 438-8437
Facsimile: (760) 438-8371"


I did a Google search and found the following San Diego Tribune story on what what Morley believes is Buzz Aldrin's Moon Watch, the first watch worn on the Moon:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/s...1n12watch.html

Whether or not Morley's watch turns out to be the Moon Watch and if so, who will get to retain the watch remains to be seen. But this is exciting stuff for OMEGA Speedmaster fans.
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Old October 13th, 2003, 10:35 AM
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Great story! I'll be sure to follow this story as it develops.

I'm wondering why Mr. Van Dyke chose to contact you. That's even more intriguing.
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Old October 13th, 2003, 11:30 AM
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"I asked if I could sell the watch and they said, 'Go right ahead.' I decided to try to bring legitimacy to the watch and its potential owners by filing the lawsuit. I want to see this resolved."

In the meantime, Morely is keeping the watch in a safe place.

"Let's just say John Lee is looking after it," he said with a grin

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Old October 13th, 2003, 03:47 PM
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I'm not sure why he contacted us but he probably just did a Google search to see what the press coverage was on his client's case and then found the EE site. I'm glad he emailed us though. I had no idea the first Moon Watch, or at least what is purported to be the first Moon Watch, had been found.

P.S. That newspaper article said that Aldrin's watch was still ticking. Bad ass.
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Old October 13th, 2003, 09:03 PM
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EE and Omega

Occasionally someone on Timezone.com will ask for info regarding smp's, and I usually refer them to EE: you guys should have sold a bunch of them by now .
DW
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Old October 13th, 2003, 09:49 PM
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too much of a good thing?

an interesting post on Timezone, for you speedy fans.

http://www.timezone.com/messageView....Id=omega044568

DW
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Old October 14th, 2003, 09:05 AM
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Old October 14th, 2003, 09:54 AM
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hehe, only a dozen eggs. all in one basket.
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Old October 15th, 2003, 04:28 AM
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i like the one on the bottom row on the left with the color numbers. it's a dated look but in a classic way.

i've been thinking about this watch and i'm just about 100% sure i'd simply give the watch back to Aldrin. I'd never feel happy about owning it and i'd always have the memory of when i did own it and how i reunited a piece of history with it's owner.

rd
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Old October 15th, 2003, 09:07 AM
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Yeah, could you imagine the story? I think the photo with Aldrin when the watch is returned would be priceless.

Unfortunately this guy who is in possession of the watch feels entitled for some reason, like he should get paid a million dollars for the watch.

I think it's sad that this guy is holding out for cash. He's greedily holding on to a national treasure, not some stupid baseball.
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Old October 15th, 2003, 05:55 PM
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Cool

I own Glenn Ford's 1960 GMT Master. No on is suing me for it though....

I agree that a watch as important as Buzz Aldrin's should either be in his personal collection or at the Louvre alongside the Range Rover.
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Old October 15th, 2003, 10:52 PM
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You gotta wonder though. In 100 million years when some other species digs this watch up in a case, will they just throw it in a bin with all the other watches? I guess my point is that it is just a watch. Like Rob said, I would just give the damn thing back or sell it for the $175 with interest. Maybe Mr. Aldrin would be generous and offer more, but in the long run it is still just a watch.

-Curtis
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Old October 15th, 2003, 11:09 PM
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This is certainly true about most of the artifacts and bits of history on display in our museums.
  • Dinosaur fossils are merely old bones
  • Native-American arrowheads are merely sculpted rock
  • The Star Spangled Banner is now merely a tattered piece of cloth
  • The Liberty Bell is just a bell
  • Buzz Aldrin's Omega Speedmaster Professional is only a watch
It's where these ordinary things have been and survived that make them remarkable
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Old October 16th, 2003, 06:48 AM
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I revise my previous generosity by saying I would accept payment for the watch in the form of a night out on the town with
Buzz and he picks up the check. This would include, at a minimum, dinner at a decent restaurant and him telling me all about
his career and_ the obligatory arm over the shoulder "old friend" type photo's, suitable for framing. If he wants to go golfing
or something before dinner I'd be up for that. The more stuff we do together the more times I can name drop him in casual
conversation.


-Rob
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Old October 16th, 2003, 09:55 AM
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LOL.
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Old October 17th, 2003, 02:09 PM
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you thought gino was nuts...

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Old October 17th, 2003, 03:43 PM
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Hmmm. Check out this pic:

http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/c3/cc/68_3.JPG

Anyone think those close-ups of the clasp look familiar? Compare that pic with these two pics:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/omega/DSC05089.jpg

and

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/omega/DSC04892.jpg

LOL.
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Old October 17th, 2003, 04:45 PM
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set of 40

The Omega Saga book says that these 40 mission sets came out in April of 1997: guess the watches were 1997 models with the new graphics.
Would have been cool to have correct vintage watches for the set, though.
I'd be happy with the set of mission patches
DW
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Old November 16th, 2004, 12:53 PM
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Thumbs down

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Old November 16th, 2004, 01:40 PM
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Sweet. I'm sad that Aldrin's watch is still lost, but I'm glad that bottom feeder didn't get to cash in.

That San Diego Union Tribune article is interesting:

"Collectors have long sought Aldrin's watch, the only one worn on the moon."

and

"Aldrin wore his watch when he became the second man to step on the moon July 20, 1969. It is the only watch ever worn there."

Huh? This Onell Soto Sucka calls himself a reporter?
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