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Old May 5th, 2007, 02:54 PM
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America's wariest game bird, is still that.

Tom Kimura and I made it out just for the season closer to see if we could harass the local toms and jakes.

Of course, to be sporting we gave them the whole season to get ready for us so they wouldn't fall for such elementary tactics like calling.
Maybe we handicapped ourselves a bit much...

The hens were interested, but no amount of live decoy action would bring the boys over.
Oh well.

Embrace the camo.
Embrace the turkey gun.
Feel the love.

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Old May 5th, 2007, 04:36 PM
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The workers behind the counter at Starbucks look terrified. Its a blast to walk into places like that wearing blaze orange or camo.
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Old May 5th, 2007, 05:08 PM
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This one is a mystery to me:




Tom, have you ever pattern tested your Nova with the ribbed barrel and ghost-ring rear sight combination? I'm guessing you would shoot right over the tom's head at even 20 yards.

Look how tall the front sight is on the ghost-ring models:



The post front sight is just a hair below the ears on that Nova Tactical front sight.
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Old May 5th, 2007, 05:11 PM
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Imagine this Engel with a Realtree transit bag:




How cool would that be?
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Old May 5th, 2007, 08:40 PM
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not as cool as Kelly's custom upholstered one to match his interior. Everything else just looks after market.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 04:06 PM
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Thomas Kimura
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnlee
This one is a mystery to me:




Tom, have you ever pattern tested your Nova with the ribbed barrel and ghost-ring rear sight combination? I'm guessing you would shoot right over the tom's head at even 20 yards.

Look how tall the front sight is on the ghost-ring models:



The post front sight is just a hair below the ears on that Nova Tactical front sight.

Holy shit, that Nova you attached is awesome- I did know they had built a special purpose gun. Lol, my set-up was, at best, a compromise. I bought my tactical Nova when they first came out as a defense gun (thus ghost ring) and only later bought the long barrel to add some versatiliy. I imagined it could be a nice back-up for a clays gun, a loaner, a heavy waterfowl gun, and a turkey gun. None of these, however, have ever really materialized- I think in total, that barrel has had less than ten rounds through it so I've never taken the time to remove the rear site.

I had always meant to take the gun by the pistol range and see which choke/load combination patterened best, but never got around to doing it. In the unlikely chance I would have actually had a shot, I was planning on aiming well below the head. Since they're so cheap, I really should just buy a dedicated turkey gun.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 08:52 PM
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Jack, Nice bead site. I have the exact one Remington Duck gun. Makes a difference in the early morning and dusk hunts. You guys use a call or box to draw them in? I've never done it but my father says the box is a bit more tricky.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 09:08 AM
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Tom, Moore N Moore has a very nice pattern plate you could pattern your Nova on. I'm not sure if the pattern plate will withstand no. 4s, but you could always ask Pat before testing shot that large. At a minimum, you could test fire some no. 7.5s, if only to see where they're hitting. Angeles Ranges right next to Moore N Moore would permit you to pattern your actual turkey load at whatever range you wanted as well.

I feel serious envy when I see this pic:




If only the Super 90 had the tang safety like the Mossbergs and the Browning BPS. If the Benelli Super 90 had the tang safety, it would be as close to the ideal repeater as has ever been created.

My ideal repeating shotgun would be the M1 Super 90 with the ejection port on the left side of the weapon and the Mossberg's and BPS' tang safety. What a weapon that would be. If the weapon broke down like a Model 12, that would be gravy. But much more important than the take-down feature would be the tang safety and the LH ejection port.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 06:58 PM
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I dig the tang safety as well.
The steps cut into the Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag's safety are extra sharp and positive and the safety is very large.

This gun is nothing if not functional.


Quite possibly horrible, but functional nonetheless

-synthetic stock
-camo
-sling
-24" bbl
-overbored
-vent rib
-ported
-screw-in protruding choke
-huge chambering

oh yeah.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 11:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reelpain
You guys use a call or box to draw them in? I've never done it but my father says the box is a bit more tricky.


I started with a box call, but found chalking and the like awkward.

I use a slate and striker:


Tom got really into it so he learned to use a diaphragm like this:


That's really the only way to fly.
Not only are the calls very realistic, but they can be directional and volume and tone control is good.
But most importantly, they keep your hands free and keep your body motionless.

The only drawback to Tom's study of the art of diaphragm calling was that he nearly swallowed one while practicing in his car in traffic.

We have two locator calls.
One is a shaker gobble and the other is a screaming peacock.
Tom loves him some screaming peacock.

We didn't have to use either on this outing because we saw where the birds were very quickly.
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Old May 8th, 2007, 09:24 AM
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I'm kinda digging this shot:




Tom's Nova is all ghillied out.
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Old May 8th, 2007, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnlee
Tom, Moore N Moore has a very nice pattern plate you could pattern your Nova on. I'm not sure if the pattern plate will withstand no. 4s, but you could always ask Pat before testing shot that large. At a minimum, you could test fire some no. 7.5s, if only to see where they're hitting. Angeles Ranges right next to Moore N Moore would permit you to pattern your actual turkey load at whatever range you wanted as well.

I feel serious envy when I see this pic:




If only the Super 90 had the tang safety like the Mossbergs and the Browning BPS. If the Benelli Super 90 had the tang safety, it would be as close to the ideal repeater as has ever been created.

My ideal repeating shotgun would be the M1 Super 90 with the ejection port on the left side of the weapon and the Mossberg's and BPS' tang safety. What a weapon that would be. If the weapon broke down like a Model 12, that would be gravy. But much more important than the take-down feature would be the tang safety and the LH ejection port.

I really need to pattern all my guns so it would be a good reason to drive up to Moore and Moore... if anyone ever wants to have a go at it?

What I like best about Jack's gun is the woodland camo. Although real tree is probably most effective, I don't think I could ever buy a gun that's camoed up as such. I want to say Springfield Armory used to have an M1A that was colored in a similar fashion.
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Old May 8th, 2007, 09:49 AM
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I'm kinda digging this shot:




Tom's Nova is all ghillied out.

The best part about turkey hunting is that the gear is so disgustingly cheap. I think in total, including the extra-full ported choke tube I bought, I may have spent $200.00 on gear. I ended up with the 3D camo face mask because I couldn't find much of anything else that I liked, but wow, an entire 3D camo suit made to Tonka-tough Cabela's specs. would set me back just $200.00; $100.00 without scent lock... Tempting, but I don't think I would be able to take myself serious.
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Old May 8th, 2007, 03:27 PM
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Tom, I think your D2 needs some Wenol and AP love. The scratches are really showing in that pic.
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Old May 8th, 2007, 04:58 PM
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Cheaters. Real men hunt Turkey with a bow.
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Old May 8th, 2007, 10:17 PM
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Looks like you two follow the guiding priciple of the Scouts. However, [as Jack hinted at] the best decoys will never substitute for the awesome power of a diaphram in skilled hands.

This Rio Grande had a 10" beard.

"Oh...I'm afraid the 3" Magnums are quite operational."

Unfortunately (for me) this Tom was taken right after I left. Naturally he appeared in the most unlikely of places and time.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:52 AM
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Tom, I think your D2 needs some Wenol and AP love. The scratches are really showing in that pic.

I fear a lot of that is permanent. I took some tough scratches during the early dove season that persisted through two waxings. Then there's the scratches from RR7... Wenol and AP, hmmm, maybe for the bumpers and winch tray
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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:11 AM
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Waxings. That's the reason the scratches are still there.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:17 AM
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oh shit.


Tom can I interest you in some equal for your tires, yaktrax for your feet and a tentcot to live in?
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Old May 9th, 2007, 01:23 PM
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Just try the Wenol and AP. If you don't like them, just return them. We go through so much Wenol and AP here at the shop, I'm happy to take them back.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 01:31 PM
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While on the topic.... On the Black D1 I got, on the hood, I have several 'whiteish' spots along the hood/fender line. I've been told this is a result of no wax ever being applied and the clearcoat is damaged.

I've used a high grit buffing compound. cleaner and then a wax to treat the area, and it helped, some. But, it still looks nasty if you look close. You think the Wenol product would help any more?
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Old May 9th, 2007, 01:40 PM
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I doubt it. If you tried the buffing compound, cleaner, and then wax, I would think the Wenol wouldn't do anything for you that these products combined did for the clear coat.

I can say though that I think if you regularly cleaned and protected your paint with Wenol and AP, you would prevent the formation and spread of those types of cancer spots.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 02:10 PM
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I will say this,
although products like AP will never take the place of claying, machine polishing and waxing for paint, AP is the shit for everything else.

It is great for bumper, snorkel, rack type stuff, but most of all I like it for things that I would otherwise not touch, e.g. jerry cans.

Hit your wedcos with AP.
The results are awesome and this is an otherwise totally negelected item.
I mean who would wax a jerry can?
Not me, but it could certainly use the protection and it's easy enough to just wipe it down with AP after you hose the dust off of it.

Sometimes Jerry cans need love too.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 02:19 PM
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I'm all about the shortcuts when it comes to washing and waxing my truck. For example, I used to mix polishing compound and wax and do both steps at once to save time. This actually worked reasonably well. but I've since dropped polishing compound and wax all together and gone with the Wenol and AP thing. When I infrequently clay bar my truck, I do with the truck wet with water instead of the spray-on clay lubricant. Forget washing and drying the truck and then claying it. If I had some bitchin Porsche or Ferrari I wouldn't take these shortcuts but for a trail truck I'm all about the convenience.

I found another shortcut for AP while I was washing my truck after RR7. Instead of using soap in my bucket of water (like a third of a five-gallon bucket), I squirted some AP in there and used this mixture with a microfiber mitt to scrub down the car. Then I hosed off the truck and then wiped it dry with a microfiber waffle towel.

I was stunned how well the AP worked in this manner. It was like waxing and washing the car in a single step. The water was beading like crazy on the paint, and it was trickling off the glass even better than if I had used Rain-X. This water/AP mix worked way better than the Griot's Garage Spray Wax I have a gallon of upstairs. Forget the gallon of Griot's Garage Speed Shine too. For the quickie washes from now on, I'll be using the AP and water combo.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 03:09 PM
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Quote:
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needs some Wenol and AP love.
Excuse me for being so naive, AP?
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