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Old May 21st, 2015, 09:37 AM
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I'm not second choice; I'm pure awesome

I'll start off this thread with a sweet pic of the FAL:


Let's see all of the love for Jeeps, Toyotas, Shimano, etc.

Whatever you like. Pretty much anything goes.

Let's see it.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 09:45 AM
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Another sweet FAL shot:

Quote:
President of Brazil Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva inspecting an Indian Air Force honor guard at the Rashtrapati Bhavan, the presidential palace in New Delhi, India.

This photo cracks me up because every few guys the headwear shifts to a turban.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 01:03 PM
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Trade Federation Land Cruiser:

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Old May 21st, 2015, 01:06 PM
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Special Air Service Land Cruiser:

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Old May 21st, 2015, 03:00 PM
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Oh man, I think the Jeep africa is great just because of all this banter. Lets see, Im not sure I understand how to play this game.
But Ill give it a try.

this 'Jeep' might even be a Russian Klone of a Jeep, so its a copy of a second choice?





How about HipsterRaj in front of his restored Mahindra.



Maybe Tata can give us this.


Oops this is a land rover.

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Old May 21st, 2015, 03:13 PM
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Let me try to clarify, as I threw off things with the Trade Federation Droid Army Transport and the fake SAS Land Cruiser.

Post up stuff that you think is cool. Pretty much anything goes. Obviously, it would help if someone else thought it was a turd. But post up what you got.

For example, I think this is a cool Jeep:


That's a Jeep Thing.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 03:49 PM
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Contrast that SAS Jeep with the Project X Speshul Konsepts Africa Edishun:


I don't think that's cool. Not at all.

What makes the former cool and the latter not? Well, it's hard to say for sure because cool is a touchy-feely matter. But a few things immediately jump out at me.

The former is actually in Africa. North Africa. It's in the wild. It doesn't need a big AFRICA sticker on the hood. The latter is in Dennis the Menace Park.

It's Africa Hot in North Africa. The dude manning the .50 in the SAS Jeep has some shitty head towel on his head to help with the heat. I think this is way cooler than the gangster tinted windows of the latter.

Look at the side jerrycan on the former. These guys needed jerrycans galore and just put them wherever they could. It may look motley, but it's truly functional (not funkshunal). The cans aren't even color-matched. They just threw on whatever they had. With the Africa Edishun, the can doesn't even fit there because of the door. But the people at Jeep needed some man jewelry on the car to dress it up and try to give it some kind of Africa feel. So they cut up a jerrycan to make it fit. Then the morons color-matched it, which looks totally contrived. Like nearly all rookies, they went with colors that "match" rather than colors that work together because any moron can match colors while it takes judgment to pick colors that go together.

Look at the limb risers on the latter. Do they look functional to you? Pretend you're a branch and follow a limb riser from the hood latch and then angle up and back. Don't the limb risers look as though they just push branches up to get snarled up in the roof rack? You might say that the limb risers pertain to function rather than cool. The point is taken, but I also maintain that those limb risers aren't cool because they're fake. Fake is never cool.

Look at the roof rack. Does that look right to you? I can see where they were going with the roof rack feet above the B-, C-, and D-pillars, but doesn't it look weird how the front of the rack cantilevers way forward like that? I say that rack is funkshunal.

Look at the black hood. I know, Jeep will tell you that the black hood is for glare. I call bullshit. If the black hood is for glare, what is the black edging on the grill for? I say the black hood was meant to go with the black windows, the black filler door, and the black accents on the lower body. They "match".

This whole car feels fake to me. I'm not talking about the diesel engine or the cargo capacity or the whatever. I'm saying this car is a fake. And that makes it uncool.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 03:58 PM
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Of course the African-American jeep is designed for looks. That's what sells over here. The thing was probably designed by a committee with looks weighted far more than engineering. That's the way it works now. I'm surprised they don't have the black Metal Mullisha bad ass rims with pointy chrome accents on there.

I must say that Jack's Land Cruiser is pretty damn cool though. No frills.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 04:41 PM
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Remember this blast from the past?:


When did Camel Trophy end? It's been quite a while. And so many cool things about Land Rovers have disappeared. So it's easy to forget how cool these cars were.

I don't think I'm far off the mark when I say that Africa Edishun was going for this.

Look at the limb risers. They go from the brushguard to the roof rack. They direct limbs up and over the vehicle rather than into the roof rack legs. The Camel Trophy Defenders had the cool hood latches, but the limb risers didn't attach to them. So you could open the hood unhindered when your POS Land Rover broke down.

Not shown there are the green jerrycans. The jerrycans weren't painted sandglow to "match".

Look how the lights are tucked. Boy, that was awesome.

Look at the shitty winch light. It's just an extra marker lamp installed above the winch to illuminate it at night. It's so simple, yet so effective.

Look at the triple dog dare rigging for the winch line. How sweet is that?

Is all of that cool shit gone now? The Defender is gone. A lot of that Mantec and Brownchurch stuff is gone. I suppose the Husky is still around. And Hella still makes the shitty 500s and 550s. But overall this is really depressing.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 05:49 PM
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Old May 21st, 2015, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by johnlee
Another sweet FAL shot:



This photo cracks me up because every few guys the headwear shifts to a turban.

That's because they're Sikh-the others are most likely Hindu.
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Old May 21st, 2015, 09:15 PM
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OK I'll play.

I bought this yesterday and I dig it:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=484226787

CZ stopped importing these in 2010 so I felt lucky to find one NOS.

My brother-in-law tried to convince me to go on a few hunting trips and I can't afford the classic Mauser 98 of my dreams. Furthermore, if dropped on a rock or being bounced around in a truck I didn't want to feel too bad if it got a ding or two. I really dislike the checkering on that stock though. Why couldn't they put some nice skip line checkering on there...

So second choice doesn't necessarily mean it's a POS-I think I will be happy with it. I'm looking at putting a second choice Meopta scope on it too.

Czech out my rifle build
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 09:05 AM
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Score!

That's going to be a sweet gun. The Meopta will be icing on the cake.

Quote:
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So second choice doesn't necessarily mean it's a POS

I'm not sure you know what I mean by second choice. Second choice doesn't mean junk. Far from it in fact. If you think about it, we have tons of choices in life. Why would the next choice from the top be a lousy choice? If anything, second choice would be a good one rather than bad. It just wouldn't be the top choice.

For example, let's say one is looking for a milsurp Mauser. Generally speaking, I would consider something like this byf Kar98k to be first choice:


And I would consider something like this Yugo M48 Mauser to be second choice:


The Yugo M48 may not be second choice. It may be third. It may be fourth. But wherever it may stand in the pecking order, it's clearly not first.

There's no real functional or performance difference between the Kar98k and the M48. They're both pretty much the same gun. But I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of Mauser owners would prefer to have a Kar98k.

The Yugo M48 guys will argue otherwise on the interwebz. Oh, it's such a great gun. There's no difference between this and the Kar98k. It's the same design as the Kar98k. The M48 is just as good as the Kar98k. This is the thinking man's Kar98k. The quality is so much better on these on the late-war Kar98ks. I really wanted to own a Mauser but didn't want any part of the Nazi atrocities so I got the M48. I LOVE my M48. I can personally attest that the M48 is so functional. Oh yeah, you should definitely buy one yourself. Blah blah blah.

All of the usual chump talk is there. But whatever they may say about their M48, it's not a Kar98k.

If you're wondering why people buy M48s, it's because an intact Kar98k costs thousands while the M48 costs hundreds. Buying an M48 doesn't make one stupid. It's a perfectly fine rifle. But fooling oneself that the M48 isn't second choice is pretty much a joke.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 09:46 AM
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Kar98k owner:


M48 owner:


Which owner talks up his rifle more? It's always like that and it's always a crack-up.
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 12:37 PM
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If your M48 doesn't excite you because you thought you were buying a Kar98k and it turned out not to be a Kar98k, I guess you can always do this to your M48 to try to make it feel special:


Scout Rifle? I call bullshit. I think he was going for this:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/984318095...K98-SNIPER.htm
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Old May 22nd, 2015, 04:14 PM
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This is hilarious.

While the M48 owner is trying to update his M48 into the 21st Century because he secretly hates his rifle, the Kar98k owner is just enjoying his rifle for what it is:


His old eyes can't even see the sights but he didn't touch them. All he did was give the weapon some Ballistol love. That's pure.

And for you guys who keep going back to function, there is no functional difference between these two weapons. The main difference between the two weapons is that one owner is happy while the other is not.
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Old May 23rd, 2015, 04:40 AM
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That's a Jeep Thing.


Is that the original Trash-A-Roo?
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Old May 26th, 2015, 05:16 AM
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Old May 26th, 2015, 02:10 PM
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Old May 26th, 2015, 02:18 PM
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Old May 26th, 2015, 02:21 PM
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Even though that display is fake, you know it's real and it happens every day.
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Old May 26th, 2015, 02:24 PM
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Old May 26th, 2015, 02:31 PM
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