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Old June 29th, 2004, 03:25 PM
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Car, not truck, choices $20k

Thinking of trading / selling the 2002 Ford F250 powerstroke diesel supercrew 4x4 Lariat in favor of a car. Looking to spend 25 grand (at most) and really like MB and BMW (late model stuff, not the Bling Bling) as well as Saab, etc. Let's discuss....
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Old June 29th, 2004, 07:57 PM
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bmw or saab, can't go wrong with each. but the bimmer is better.
we bought a 2001 saab 93 about a year and a half ago (22- ish)
it's nice but honestly is isn't as nice as our 325i we traded for it.

the wife drives the saab, so in the end it was her choice.
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Old June 29th, 2004, 11:35 PM
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benz.
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Old June 30th, 2004, 04:51 AM
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ronward,
How many people are you thinking of carrying? Cargo? Gas mileage expectations? Repair expectations? Will this be a daily driver or a weekend cruiser?

Except for my recent foray into Land Rover ownership, I've always been a Honda fan. For the money you're talking, you could get a brandy new Accord, unfortunately, the 6 cylinder which most people choose only comes with a slushbox. You could also find a slightly used S2000, which, would be my choice given that amount of cash and the need for a newer vehicle.

I've never heard good things about Saab's reliability, except from dealers and those who just purchased one. It seems that the romance ends pretty quickly. I know a few people who own Mercs, while they love the vehicles, it's the repair costs they can't stand. I don't have much info on BMWs though except for one acquaintance who uses his in the SCCA... You might also want to consider a used 911 if you're into that kind of thing.

However, if you're looking for a weekend cruiser and 20-25 grand, why not get something older? GTO? Chevelle? Maybe a pristene MG TD?

I dunno, I gave you a lot of variations here, I'm just not sure what you want the vehicle for...

Matthew
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Old June 30th, 2004, 07:33 AM
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I'm now on my 3rd Saab. like Audi, they depreciate quickly at the beginning and then start to hold their own. maintenance wize same as any other Euro car I've had and certainly LESS than any of my Rovers.

Bimmers and Benzs are great cars - they're just too many of them on the road!

At least drive a Saab for comparison.

Jaime
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Old June 30th, 2004, 09:01 AM
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Old June 30th, 2004, 09:06 AM
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Old June 30th, 2004, 10:02 AM
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I know the perfect license plate for your Saab:

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Old June 30th, 2004, 10:25 AM
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benz.

Bimmer
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Old June 30th, 2004, 12:37 PM
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Well, I didn't reply because my answer isn't what you're looking for. I say get a nice, used P38. I know, it's not a car. But it's very car-like. It's cheaper than a used BMW or Mercedes or Saab or whatever gourmet car is out there, and it's probably cheaper to maintain as well. If I were in your shoes, I would get a P38.
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Old June 30th, 2004, 01:14 PM
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S-class of course.
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Old June 30th, 2004, 01:57 PM
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If it's your fun car and not the family daily driver, an M3 would be cool. I've heard it gets a little old as a daily driver after a while, though (stiff suspension, low profile tires, shifting, etc). Not too sure, but I think the '97 E36 M3 probably has 17" rims, which isn't bad at all. The E46 M3 (newer ones) have 18" standard. I have a 2001 325i with the sport and premium packages (stiff suspension, 225/45/17) and it is nice. If you go BMW, I'd go with a factory CPO (certified pre-owned). You get an extra 2 years & 50k miles of full warranty, for a total of 6 years/100k miles warranty. I have over 70k miles and 3 years left on my warranty. Peace of mind. You should be able to pick up a CPO 325i or 330i with reasonable mileage (50-60k) in the mid-20's. Mine was just under $30k, but it only had 24k miles on it. I wish I could have afforded the extra 41 HP in the 330i (225 vs. 184). Still, the 325 has taken me up to 135mph in relative comfort....

Benz?
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Old June 30th, 2004, 02:20 PM
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Ok just got back from driving the automatic 1997 M3. It has 87xxx miles on it and the shop wants $18k for it. It is not bad for the age, some wear on the leather on the steering wheel and door arm rests. Radio display is out, and the center console looks like it is missing something, but it runs well and pulls like a locomotive. I haven't compared price to anything on the internet so I have no idea what is fair.
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Old June 30th, 2004, 04:19 PM
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price sounds high to me by at least a few K, but it's in line with other similar ones for sale

also, automatic & M3 just don't mix

check these out for comparison (the "distance" given for each is distance from Columbus, GA):
http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/r...used&x=28&y=10
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Old June 30th, 2004, 04:32 PM
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so, as you can easily see, the bmw lovers are all in the number thing, and that this dont' go with that, and manual this, auto that, blah blah.

go S-class and you won't have to worry about none of that.
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Old June 30th, 2004, 04:48 PM
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ah... so you want something fast...

here's my preference: VOLVO 850 T-5R OR R
w/ one of these... http://www.ipdusa.com/pdf/ecu_94_98.pdf




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Old June 30th, 2004, 05:08 PM
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so, as you can easily see, the bmw lovers are all in the number thing, and that this dont' go with that, and manual this, auto that, blah blah.

go S-class and you won't have to worry about none of that.

Ho, my friend, talk to this:
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Old June 30th, 2004, 05:17 PM
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Old June 30th, 2004, 05:24 PM
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i miss my 850
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Old June 30th, 2004, 06:12 PM
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Strange, a couple of posts of mine are missing, and one from John Lee is posted under my username.

I had a 1998 V70 (850) and it was too low to the ground for my tastes.

John, the P38 is a great idea, but I wouldn't want two Rovers ever again in my life.
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Old June 30th, 2004, 07:47 PM
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oh shit, how did that happen? LOL

man, S-class. will go well with the rolex.
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Old June 30th, 2004, 08:27 PM
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Oh shit. My bad. I think I hit "edit" instead of "reply".

That's what comes with too much power.

Sorry.
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Old June 30th, 2004, 08:57 PM
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man, i wondering why you were answering your own question...
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Old July 1st, 2004, 05:26 AM
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John has the con, no doubt about that.

So I wrestled with this car thing all evening. Searched the web and found some useful info. All comes down to taste I suppose. Ho the S class circa 1995 is about my limit. The AMG stuff is way too expensive for my taste and MB doesn't really make a sporty car in the E class. Just how slow is a 1985 300D???

I wish I could find a 1982-3 BMW 323I Alpina. Talk about tiny, but oh so sweet. The E36 M3 I drove yesterday is cool, but overpriced and probably needs some work regardless of what the mechanic there says. I'm looking for something reliable, fast, comfy, and not very common, and not brand new. For now, thank God the F250 is a diesel...
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Old July 1st, 2004, 07:02 AM
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