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Old May 22nd, 2005, 08:50 AM
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Beretta 686 Sporting

So my 686 Sporting has finally found it's way home. I am very happy with my purchase. This gun really feels alive in my hands.

This one's got my name on it!












Wood is a little lighter than other 686 Sportings I have seen but I liked it.


Look out cat!


Five choke tube included.


No Chianti when shooting please...


Alrighty then... I'm ready to go smoke some clays!!!!!
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 11:35 AM
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Awesome.
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Old May 23rd, 2005, 12:13 PM
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So... let's see that K80!!!
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Old May 26th, 2005, 07:17 AM
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A big thanks to John for driving all the way up to the Angeles Shooting Range last night!

Under his council I went from not hitting anything (and having to ask if I had hit anything) to hitting the clay most of the time on the first shot and if I didn't hit it hard I was able to finish it with the second shot!!!!

After a little over two hours my brain was toast!

Yep... I am very very happy with my 686!!!
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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:43 AM
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Aaron is a natural. I was amazed at hard he was breaking the targets and also at how quickly he picked up shooting clay targets. At every progression he picked up the new technique and he was very smooth.

We were shooting a straight-away trap target the entire day.

First we started out with no gun at all and with just the target flying away. Aaron got to watch the target closely and see how it shoots out of the trap at a blur, then rises, then starts to slow down, then starts to level off, and then start to fall. Aaron also got to see how the target is blurry at first but then crystalizes into a razor-sharp focus as it levels off.

Next we did the same thing but with Aaron pointing his index finger at the target and tracking it, always with a hard focus on the target.

Next Aaron started with a high gun and tracked the target but didn't fire.

Then we started to shoot. Aaron started with a high gun At first he was missing because he wasn't focusing hard on the target, but soon he was hitting regularly. We repeated this until he was breaking the targets hard. I was amazed how quickly he went from missing them to chipping them to breaking them hard.

Then I tweaked with Aaron's stance and hold. Aaron picked up these changes very quickly and was very smooth. We practiced this for a short while.

When he was breaking the targets hard again, I had Aaron start with a high gun, but with his trigger finger off the trigger. I realize that almost all champion shotgunners start in the ready position with their finger on the trigger, but I cringe at seeing this as it's a very bad habit for someone who also shoots more than clay target games, like rifle and pistol as well as field shotgunning. Soon Aaron was starting high gun but with his trigger finger outside the trigger guard, then inserting the trigger finger the moment before he fired.

All of these shots were with only the bottom barrel loaded. Then we transitioned to FUG ("full use of the gun"), where Aaron loaded both chambers. Here, Aaron had the option of tagging the target a second time if he missed with the first shot.

Aaron had all of this down and was breaking the targets very hard, so we transitioned to a low gun start. He was very smooth at low gun as well.

We didn't get to try doubles because the trap at Angeles doesn't throw simultaneous doubles.

I get the feeling Aaron will soon be a bad ass. I was surprised how quickly be picked up the techniques. He also brings more of a willingness and eagerness to learn than most people do.
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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:53 AM
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John is very generous. I feel strongly that his ability to teach is what made the shooting seem easy.

John has also left out the fact that he was smoking those clays!!!!
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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:57 AM
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I've taken lots of people to Angeles and they were good starters. But you picked up the game much faster than anyone else I've seen.

As for smoking the clays, it ain't me. That K-80 is a killer.
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Old May 26th, 2005, 10:18 AM
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Yes, the K-80 is beautiful!!!

Wednesday is 1/2 price day at the range so it's $5.50. Not bad. And, it's only 10min from my work. Guess where I'll be on Wednesdays after work!
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Old May 26th, 2005, 11:47 AM
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LOL
happy wednesdays.
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Old May 27th, 2005, 05:34 PM
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This is all your fault John!!!!!

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Old May 27th, 2005, 05:36 PM
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Awesome.
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Old May 27th, 2005, 05:36 PM
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i am so glad i took no part in this madness. LOL
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Old May 27th, 2005, 05:45 PM
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i am so glad i took no part in this madness. LOL

Just give it time....
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Old May 27th, 2005, 08:55 PM
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i am so glad i took no part in this madness.
It's infectious...

After seeing Aaron's new gun, I went to check out a similar one in 20-bore and almost walked away with a sizeable credit card bill.

Congrats Aaron, that is a really nice shotgun!

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Old May 28th, 2005, 08:24 AM
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It's infectious...

After seeing Aaron's new gun, I went to check out a similar one in 20-bore and almost walked away with a sizeable credit card bill.

Congrats Aaron, that is a really nice shotgun!


Thanks Ryan!

That's kind of what happened to me. I was checking out John's M1 Super 90, then I decided to go see how much the M2 Super 90s were at the store. Harmless enough, right? Wrong. I did walk out the store with a hefty CC bill. In fact, my wife just reminded me of that fact as it just came in the mail.

But it sure is fun!!!
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Old May 28th, 2005, 09:26 AM
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Visiting a gun shop in these cash-and-carry states must really be tempting. The idea that you can look at a gun and play with it at the gun shop and then take it home that day must make impulse buying much more common.

Just imagine walking into Pacific Sporting Arms and walking out with a Perazzi. That's a little scary if you think about it.
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 11:01 AM
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Cool

You are shotting full choke right ???
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 11:10 AM
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Full? That's it? Why stop there? Why not Super Full?
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 11:12 AM
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You are shotting full choke right ???

Are you kidding!?!?!?!? I can barely hit the broad side of a barn with skeet and improved cylinder!!!
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 11:25 AM
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Cool

Actually I use a super full on geese.... And yes , "Aim small , miss small"
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 01:08 PM
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Speaking of chokes, a little blue box came from Ottsville, PA today. The box contained seven more Ti chokes and a Chokey wrench. I now have the full range from cylinder to super full in 0.005" increments, and two each of the cylinder chokes (for skeet) and improved cylinder chokes (for sporting clays).

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Old June 22nd, 2005, 02:14 PM
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Speaking of chokes, a little blue box came from Ottsville, PA today. The box contained seven more Ti chokes and a Chokey wrench. I now have the full range from cylinder to super full in 0.005" increments, and two each of the cylinder chokes (for skeet) and improved cylinder chokes (for sporting clays).


Nice!!!!!!!!!

No excuses for a miss!
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Old June 22nd, 2005, 05:05 PM
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The next time we hit Moore-n-Moore, let's try that 100-yard crossing shot, if only for shits and giggles. I want to test out this super full choke on that target.
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Old June 30th, 2005, 07:42 AM
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uh oh...

i went to Turner's last night and someone did the paperwork on a 686 white onyx field 20 bore with 28" bbls.

and it wasn't me.

no more unpractical tactical.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 08:22 AM
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yes, but less fuzzy.

it's the new hotness.
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