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Old October 31st, 2005, 09:08 AM
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On Saturday my friend Tom and I managed a wingshooting effort we had never before attempted. We woke early before the sunrise to shoot ducks over a flooded field in the Imperial Valley. After the morning shoot we headed to a nearby farm where Madeline, still wet from the duck retrieves, put up pheasant and chukar in a fallow alfalfa field. We then headed West into the mountains where we scrambled after valley quail. It was a 5AM to 5PM day of bird hunting on the water, through the farm and in the mountains. Truly epic and easily our most stunning day afield. Madeline proved that she is a consumate professional and the very definition of a versatile. Tom and I shot just well enough to validate her efforts. The ducks flew well, the pheasant ran hard and we put up a single covey rise of 40 quail in the desert mountains. Just spectacular. I shot my 12 bore Ugartechea choked mod/full with Kent Fasteel 3" #3s for the ducks and for the upland birds I switched to the 20 bore cyl/skt2 with 2 3/4" 2 3/4 dram 1oz of 7.5s. Ideally by next season I'll have a 16 IC/mod for the chukar and pheasant and reserve the 20 bore for the quail.
Of course, we were so focused on our hunting efforts that the photo work suffered but I managed to shoot a few details and compositions after the fact. Regardless, it was mixed bag at its best.
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Old October 31st, 2005, 09:16 AM
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Old October 31st, 2005, 09:39 AM
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Old October 31st, 2005, 09:54 AM
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We call that a "redneck triple-header" around here.

Of all three, I enjoy duck hunting the most.
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Old October 31st, 2005, 11:00 AM
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Awesome.
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Old October 31st, 2005, 01:09 PM
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Nice 'marathon' Why didn't you want to camp out and take more time? Looks like it would've been a nice over-nighter.
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Old November 1st, 2005, 02:26 PM
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Nice 'marathon' Why didn't you want to camp out and take more time? Looks like it would've been a nice over-nighter.


Not too sound like too much of a wimp but after a really long day of hunting, I like to take a shower and go out to dinner or cook up some birds at home and the dog and I don't mind sleeping in a nice bed.

It's funny b/c when people go to moab on rover trips and stay in motels i think it's a worthless trip. What's the point of a rover trip where you don't get somewhere remote and stay out there? At least to my mind it goes hand in hand. But it's not just about being tired. I like backpacking a lot and that's exhausting and uncomfortable at the same time. But with bird hunting I always lean towards staying somewhere. Maybe I'm getting soft. Hauling around all the usual rover/camping stuff and the hunting gear on top of that would also be an almost overwhelming amount of stuff. Just with the different gear for water fowl and upland we were changing out boots, vests, guns, jackets, hats etc.

As for our little triple header that is actually local (within 2 hours) hunting so we're just squeezing it in when we can. We take a lot of long weekends to Arizona to chase quail and stay at my family's house in Tucson.
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Old November 1st, 2005, 04:43 PM
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Well done, Jack. The quail (and Chukar) hunting this year has been at its best. Thirty to 40 bird covies have been the norm. Great to hear that Madeline's having fun. Hope to get together soon for some red-legged partridge hunting.
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Old November 1st, 2005, 05:07 PM
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Excellent day afield! Reminds of the scottish triple, Damn they have a word for it that escapes me, of I believe was a Salmon, Stag and grouse in 1 day.
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Old November 1st, 2005, 08:56 PM
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Very nice Jack! Where were you at? Doesn't pheasant open 11/12?
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Old November 2nd, 2005, 07:27 AM
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Very nice Jack! Where were you at? Doesn't pheasant open 11/12?


The chukar and pheasant were scratch birds from a preserve. They had been put out the weekend before and had survived the first and second round of natural selection. The birds we got ended their darwinian evolution on saturday.
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Old November 2nd, 2005, 10:23 PM
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BTW Jack-what are you looking at for the 16 ga?
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 09:27 AM
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Same as the other two: LCS Grade 1 Ugartechea. boxlock, case colored, extractors, fixed choke, double trigger, splinter forend, straight grip, no plate.

http://www.doubleshotguns.com/ugartechea.htm
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 11:29 AM
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That looks like a nice hunting gun for the money, a 28 ga. would be sweet. I believe barrels belong next to each other not all stacked up. I assume you have been happy with the fit and finish, any issues?
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 02:39 PM
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Jack,

What specifically lead you to the Ugartechea vs. other makes? The price of the Ugartechea is certainly more attractive than the Beretta 471, and since you seem to be very knowledgeable regarding your guns and appear to be happy with yours, I am considering checking them out.

Also, I know you travel a lot, so what is the best way to insure my guns while traveling on commercial flights? Anyone else who may have some insight regarding this question, please feel free to chime in...

Thanks, Ryan

btw- I am heading out, this weekend, to the Green River/Flaming Gorge area for some Partridge and Trout cast-and-blast. Elk and Deer hunting was a bust this year, so I hope that this weekend and Thanksgiving in Texas turn out a little better. I'll post some pics when I return, in the meantime here is a picture of sunset on the last day of big game hunting...
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 03:09 PM
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Same as the other two: LCS Grade 1 Ugartechea. boxlock, case colored, extractors, fixed choke, double trigger, splinter forend, straight grip, no plate.

http://www.doubleshotguns.com/ugartechea.htm

When are you thinking about getting one?


Maybe we can double up and save on freight...
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 04:16 PM
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Ryan,

I've traveled to Europe, and back home to Texas, many a time via plane. I have never been inclined to insure my firearm. As you may know, the airline will cover up to a certain dollar amount should they lose your luggage or other belongings. This amount will certainly not cover an expensive shotgun, but it's free insurance and affords some comfort. Check with the airlines before flying. Have no idea where to get supplemental insurance.
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 04:35 PM
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If you schedule your firearms on your homeowners insurance then they can be covered for "mysterious disapearance", which covers pretty much everything. I think checked firearms get a touch more attention and don't get lost too often but NRA and SCI also offer coverage. That said I did not insure my rifles on my last trip to South Africa and should look into it again for next years safari.
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 07:36 PM
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Same as the other two: LCS Grade 1 Ugartechea. boxlock, case colored, extractors, fixed choke, double trigger, splinter forend, straight grip, no plate.

http://www.doubleshotguns.com/ugartechea.htm

Any reason you are looking at boxlocks rather than sidelocks other than cost? I presume the Ugartechea 16 ga. is built on the 12 ga. frame as usual, correct?

I've been thinking about buying my first SxS but am looking at a sidelock 20 ga.
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Old November 4th, 2005, 09:14 AM
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Any reason you are looking at boxlocks rather than sidelocks other than cost? I presume the Ugartechea 16 ga. is built on the 12 ga. frame as usual, correct?

I've been thinking about buying my first SxS but am looking at a sidelock 20 ga.


I'm not going to make excuses, if I could shoot a Westley Richards drop lock that's what I'd have and the Ugartecheas are definitely economy guns. But that said, they are really functional field guns that are well sorted out and VERY reliable. Fit, finish and wood are impressive for such a cheap gun. Far better than the Turkish offerings. Despite all the people who question the Spanish guild guns I have had zero malfunctions with my two guns. But I do keep it simple. Hence the BLNE. I like the low end Uggies far better than the AYA matadors and yeomans. As the guns get nicer I switch over to the AYA no.2 or Grulla 216 instead of a Uggie Grade 5.

The LCS Ugartechea 16 is a TRUE 16 on a proper frame, not a 16 barrels on a 12 bore frame.
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