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Old March 2nd, 2006, 05:18 PM
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New Toy For The Shop

My new camera:


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Old March 2nd, 2006, 05:42 PM
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Here's the Rollei Rolleiflex beside the Leica M3 and MINOX TLX:




These pics give some idea of the scale:






I'm still sifting through the pics.
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Old March 2nd, 2006, 05:52 PM
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Damn you! Now I have to spend more $$ at EE! lol
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Old March 2nd, 2006, 06:18 PM
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holy shit.
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Old March 2nd, 2006, 06:26 PM
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The SHOT Show was really fruitful. We picked up a bunch of new products there. MINOX and Barbour are two of the lines.

Here are some scale shots of the Leica M3:




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Old March 2nd, 2006, 06:39 PM
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That little Rollieflex TLR is sexy.

I like the M3 and the Minox too.

Where's the PPK, the Seamaster and the DB5?
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Old March 2nd, 2006, 07:03 PM
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I'm really excited about this MINOX stuff, but I'm also a little bummed because MINOX discontinued a bunch of the baby cams I wanted, including the Contax I:




Leica IIIf White:




Leica IIIf Black:




Hasselblad SWC:




and Leica M3 (film):




All of those are 8x11 film cameras and to me these classic cams are best in film rather than digital (even though film is a pain in the ass). I prefer the greater weight and mechanical feel of the film cameras for these types of collector pieces. I was especially looking forward to the baby Hasselblad for some miniature NASA action.

We ordered the entire line-up with all of the bitchin leather cases and lens covers and everything, but when we got our stock order only the Rolleiflex (Digital), M3 (Digital), and TLX (film) arrived and the packing slip said something to the effect of "everything else you ordered is now discontinued".

That sucks. That's sort of like Krieghoff's discontinuing the CNC'd "K80" engraving, Benchmade's discontinuing the 710HS, and Heckler & Koch's discontinuing the P7. I was pissed.
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Old March 2nd, 2006, 08:08 PM
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Nice! That Rollei's pretty sweet. TLRs are fun to shoot with, but quirky at times. Like when shooting up close and having to correct for parallax or -- and this happened often -- to get the shot I wanted I would've had to put it high on a tripod but then couldn't take the shot because I wasn't tall enough to look down into it to focus. Doh!
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Old March 2nd, 2006, 08:20 PM
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You look down into the baby Rollei as well:




If you want, you can open up the cover:




and peer through the blinder to make it into a makeshift viewfinder:




And like the real one, you crank it before every shot:




The shutter release is in the same spot as well:




And, like the original, it takes square pics:




and:




The pics ain't all that, but they're pretty damn good considering the camera is this small:




I'm still pissed about those other baby cams though. Damn!
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Old March 2nd, 2006, 08:43 PM
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DAMN!... and my sony 717 just crapped out on me...
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Old March 2nd, 2006, 09:11 PM
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well han, time for some ... .-.. .-.
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Old March 3rd, 2006, 08:22 AM
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Han, these won't replace the 717. These are more curiosity items than anything else. They're high quality items but they're severely limited by their size.

Right now, I'm digging the idea of this for my new pocket cam:


http://www.leica-camera.com/digitale...2/index_e.html
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Old March 3rd, 2006, 05:13 PM
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I recently purchased the Panasonic version of that camera (same production line for both the Leica D-Lux 2 and the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX1 and are supposedly identical except for name and price).

http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/lumix/lx1/

It's a nice camera but I actually liked my old Lumix better. I'm old-school and I still am not used to not having a viewfinder and using the 2.5" LCD in bright sunlight with sunglasses is taking some getting used to.

It has quite a few features and I'll have to spend more time reading the manual to get the most out of it (kinda like the Yaesu VX-7R I just bought).
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Old March 3rd, 2006, 05:36 PM
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I think they are the same. The MINOX sales rep told us that all digital cameras come out of a handful of different factories. Our Digilux-2 was made in Japan as well, and I believe there is a Panasonic version of that camera as well.

I'm still wanting the Leica though. It's sort of like wanting a Mercedes instead of a Lexus.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 01:02 AM
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More like Toyota and Lexus or Nissan and Infinity.
Same lens and digital chip, just different case details. I'll save the $200 and use it towards more stuff at EE.

Really nice cameras (Panasonic and Leica), may pick one (panasonic) up this week to bring to RR6. Been wanting to keep a decent point and shoot in the truck.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 07:21 AM
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due to my miniture fetish i will be forced to buy one or more of these.

what type of memory stick to they take for the digital mini slr looking one?
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Old March 4th, 2006, 07:36 AM
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Old March 4th, 2006, 08:59 AM
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I love that site. I don't how the guy has the time to do those very detailed reviews, but I'm glad he does.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nosivad_bor
what type of memory stick to they take for the digital mini slr looking one?

The M3 doesn't have a detachable memory stick like the Rollei. The M3 has a jack for a USB cable:




Because there is no detachable memory stick, the camera's memory is fixed at 40 shots. A small LCD on the back counts down the remaining shots:




The M3 takes better pics than the Rollei:




I still prefer the Rollei though, because the M3 doesn't have a LCD screen. Instead, you snap pics by looking through the viewfinder. I also prefer the Rollei because it looks just like a real Rollei, but miniaturized. The M3 is longer front to back than than a real M3. I also dig the fact that the Rollei must be cranked manually between each shot. It just has a more authentic feel to it. The M3 has a crank, but it's not used as on with the baby film M3. The digital M3 just cycles automatically from one shot to the next.

The M3 has other advantages though, like an optional flash:




and an optional leather case:




The case looks like this closed:




Shit, get them both:




Ho's girls will need braces soon.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 09:41 AM
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Man, if the M3 had a view finder and removable memory it would be prefect. I guess there is are some unavoidable concession for the miniaturization.

I love that leather case and flash. I still think thats the one I'll end up with. I need to read the reviews.


Rob
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Old March 4th, 2006, 09:51 AM
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My favorite is still that baby Hasselblad. There are some pics of the baby Hasselblad on the Subminiature Cameras site:


http://www.submin.com/8x11/collectio...hasselblad.htm


How cool is that?

I'm pissed.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 10:15 AM
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I must have one. I am pissed they only give it 32mb internal memory though. The more I read the more I want it. The miniture jack is lonely.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 10:17 AM
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I must have one. I am pissed they only give it 32mb internal memory though. The more I read the more I want it. The miniture jack is lonely.

You could consider an MP3 player as a portable memory system. We downloaded pictures every couple days onto an ipod while on the PCQ.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 10:33 AM
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True I have a 40gig ipod i Could dump them into. Also i have a 1 gig USB flash memory that might work.

For my Sony cameras I have bunch of 128 memory sticks. I like to change them out like rolls of film. I think it's easier to manage.

I dont see this camera being my choice for vacation photo's or anything, more of a luxury gotta have it kind of item. I just dont want to find my self lusting after a differnt camera after I get the M3. Which is a common problem for me.
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Old March 4th, 2006, 11:14 AM
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I must have one. I am pissed they only give it 32mb internal memory though. The more I read the more I want it. The miniture jack is lonely.


I miss that jack:




I hope that baby jack is treating you well.
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