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Old September 11th, 2006, 11:39 PM
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aaron... here's something to read about the submariner. don't know if the source is reliable but it's interesting.

http://www.luxuryeye.co.uk/directory...ubmariner.aspx


here's a piece of history for the GMT Master as well from the same source...

http://www.luxuryeye.co.uk/directory...mt_master.aspx


and what's up with this...

"However the real untold story of the GMT Master begins here. Everyone knows that NASA astronauts were issued with Omega Speedmasters, however not everyone knows that almost all the astronauts owned their own GMT Masters, which had become the standard Aviators timepiece, and they continued to wear them at all times including space flights.

The Speedmasters were regulated to occasions when they had to be worn, such as during space walks when the special extended bracelet allowed them to be worn outside the space suits. It was the GMT Master on the wrist of Jack Swigert that helped the crew of the Apollo 13 to make it back to Earth safely after their on board oxygen tank ruptured."

...is this true?
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Old September 12th, 2006, 12:01 AM
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keep the gold.

Keep the gold and buy another SS
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Old September 12th, 2006, 03:29 AM
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Regarding Swigert's GMT, I read somewhere, maybe the Lovell book "Lost Moon" that he wore the GMT on the 13 mission flight, but don't remember if he mentioned which watch timed their uncontrolled burns in space.

I do know that you would have to manually wind the GMT to keep her running in zero gravity. As you would the Speedy pro.

Cool story though. My GMTII is badass. Just in case you di'int know dat.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 07:49 AM
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Cool story though. My GMTII is badass. Just in case you di'int know dat.

yeah, bad ass even if such story didn't exist.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 08:06 AM
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maybe Swigert did have both watches but forgot to wind the speedy and had to rely on the GMT? i'm sure the speedy would have done the same job. it's all about mine is better than yours blahblahblah...

the bottom line is... both watches are bad ass.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 08:25 AM
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You want unbiased opinion? I dont know anything about these watches. I did go and visit rolex website and i have picked my favorite. I dont know which ones cost the most etc. I just know which one I would like to have.

...

They all blur together a bit but to me having no sense of history of the brand I completely love the look of the Oyster Pro GMT Master II with blue and red bezel. Not too flashy but distinctive, has the iconic little bubble face and more importantly the date. Also Ilike having the dual time zone property. Fuck I am going to have to look around to see the price of this thing to bring me back to reality.


Rob, that is just bad ass. You go to the Rolex site tabula rasa and you pick the steel GMT. No gold. No day-date bullshit. That's sweet.

You should look into a GMT for yourself. You've earned it too. I think list on a steel GMT2 is around $5k. You can certainly buy one cheaper on eBay or something if you're inclined to take some risk. I think Koreatown authorized Rolex dealers charge about $4,500 out the door.

Sure, that's a lot of money. But it's not crazy either. $5k for a lifetime timepiece isn't bad at all. Think about the money you've blown thus far on various watches in your lifetime. The more of these throwaway pieces you buy, the farther you are from the watch of a lifetime (and your son's lifetime and his son's lifetime).

You'll be buying quality. You're not buying marketing. Look at the GMT. Look at the machining. Look at the movement. Look at the crystal. It's worth it. I don't know if you've seen one in person, but take a look. It's a very impressive piece.

Every red-blooded male should have one nice watch. A watch and a wedding band are the only real pieces of jewelry a man can wear with authority. A GMT has a lot of bam but without being gay. I know it'll look sweet on your wrist. And you'll enjoy it every day of your life.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 08:49 AM
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"However the real untold story of the GMT Master begins here. Everyone knows that NASA astronauts were issued with Omega Speedmasters, however not everyone knows that almost all the astronauts owned their own GMT Masters, which had become the standard Aviators timepiece, and they continued to wear them at all times including space flights.


This statement is patently false. The GMT isn't flight qualified by NASA, so it can't be worn during EVA, launches, and re-entry. It's against the rules. So the bit about "at all times" is patently erroneous.

I don't doubt that some of the NASA Astronauts may have worn their GMT's during some of the missions. Here Ed Mitchell is winding/setting what many believe to be a GMT:




I can't tell what it is. It looks as if it has a biggie bezel, so it doesn't appear to be a Moon Watch. But from the pic it looks to be one of two backup watches. Mitchell's Moon Watch is strapped to his left forearm, and that's the watch he wore for the launch of Apollo XIV.

I have yet to see a single pic of an Astronaut wearing a GMT during any mission. I'm not saying it never happened. But I haven't seen a pic of a single GMT.

For sure, this ain't no GMT:




This ain't no GMT either:




And this ain't no GMT:




Action pics of the Moon Watch are everywhere. There are hundreds and possibly even thousands of them. And I have yet to see a single GMT action shot.


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The Speedmasters were regulated to occasions when they had to be worn, such as during space walks when the special extended bracelet allowed them to be worn outside the space suits.


This also sounds like bullshit. How does one regulate a watch for EVA? The watch gets broiling hot in the sunshine. Then it gets freezing cold in the shade. How does one regulate for this? That's bullshit.


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It was the GMT Master on the wrist of Jack Swigert that helped the crew of the Apollo 13 to make it back to Earth safely after their on board oxygen tank ruptured."


This not outside the realm of possibility. However, I think it's weird that Swigert would use a GMT for timing a burn instead of a Moon Watch. You mean to tell me he used the second hand on his GMT instead of the stopwatch function on his Moon Watch? Again, it's not impossible to believe. But it doesn't sound credible to me.

I'm not quite sure why the GMT owners feel the need to grasp for straws like this. The GMT is a kick ass watch. It doesn't need justification. I would rate the GMT and the Moon Watch about equal in bad assness. Why grasp for straws?
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Old September 12th, 2006, 10:59 AM
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It certainly is cool that a watch was worn in the outter space by astronauts. But I like to think that certain watches are bad ass because David Shecter wore it:

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or because I wore it:

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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:48 AM
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Ok, I realize David is just fixing his brake hose, and I am just carving a piece of beef... nothing as cool as what these astronauts are doing, but still.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:52 AM
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sorry to have missed out on such a good discussion. When I saw Omega as the thread title I blew off the thread.




You should know that no thread on the EE board ever stays on topic. That's half the fun.

What a rookie.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:53 AM
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It certainly is cool that a watch was worn in the outter space by astronauts. But I like to think that certain watches are bad ass because David Shecter wore it:



or because I wore it:





Or perhaps becasue you're both left handed!
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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:55 AM
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Here's cool review of the GMTII.

This guy gets it.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 12:06 PM
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Great review.

I wonder which Rolex Aaron will end up getting.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 12:10 PM
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Or perhaps becasue you're both left handed!

Why do guess that they are both left handed?
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Old September 12th, 2006, 12:34 PM
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Matt,

Here's a pic of the man's version of the Lady Datejust that I think would be nice for your girlfriend:




That's a very clean watch. When I think "Rolex", I don't think of a GMT or Sub or whatever. Rather, I think of a steel Datejust with Jubilee bracelet, faceted bezel, silver dial, and hash marks. The Lady Datejust version of this same watch is equally clean and elegant. And it's so Rolex.

I prefer the mother of pearl and diamonds for a Lady Datejust, but the silver dial with hash marks is very clean and elegant.

I'm not sure if Rolex offers this same watch with mother of pearl dial, but with hash marks instead of diamonds. That might be another nice watch for your girlfriend.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 12:39 PM
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"This Rolex was on the wrist of someone who had a motorcycle accident while wearing it. It was still running and still is AFAIK. It was re-cased with a new bracelet. Do you see a need for a more substantial metal then SS.? LOL =)"
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Old September 12th, 2006, 12:41 PM
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Why do guess that they are both left handed?

Because both have watches on thier right. A common trait among lefties.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 12:48 PM
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That's what I thought. I guess I find this amusing because I am left handed and I wear my watch on the left.

It's a motorcycle thing.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 01:09 PM
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Great review.

I wonder which Rolex Aaron will end up getting.

Maybe I should just get a Timex.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 01:16 PM
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Don't you think it's odd that Timex and Rolex both end in "ex"?

Sort of like Pentax and Contax.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 01:34 PM
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Matt,

Here's a pic of the man's version of the Lady Datejust that I think would be nice for your girlfriend:




That's a very clean watch. When I think "Rolex", I don't think of a GMT or Sub or whatever. Rather, I think of a steel Datejust with Jubilee bracelet, faceted bezel, silver dial, and hash marks. The Lady Datejust version of this same watch is equally clean and elegant. And it's so Rolex.

I prefer the mother of pearl and diamonds for a Lady Datejust, but the silver dial with hash marks is very clean and elegant.

I'm not sure if Rolex offers this same watch with mother of pearl dial, but with hash marks instead of diamonds. That might be another nice watch for your girlfriend.

yeah, it's coool to see men's watch worn by women.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 01:41 PM
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"This Rolex was on the wrist of someone who had a motorcycle accident while wearing it. It was still running and still is AFAIK. It was re-cased with a new bracelet. Do you see a need for a more substantial metal then SS.? LOL =)"


damn... i hope the rider survived.

aaron, i know i said Sub before... but i think a GMT Master II might be nice as well. the Sub screams dive watch. do you dive?

try this on before you make a decision
GMT Master II w/ date black bezel SS/SS.


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Old September 12th, 2006, 01:52 PM
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Yeah, I've looked (on line) at the all black GMT-MII. I am just not sure if loosing the Pepsi look is acceptable to me or not.

I mean... would you want a Pepsi can Sub? No, of course not. I haven't decided if the converse holds true.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 02:02 PM
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That's what I thought. I guess I find this amusing because I am left handed and I wear my watch on the left.

It's a motorcycle thing.

Yeah I am righty and wear a watch on my right, I wasn't told of the rules until I was already comfortable wearing it this way.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 02:32 PM
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The GMTII black bezel is sleek, but it give the impression of a wannabe sub.

I've seen a lot of guys with the wine/black bezel and few with the brown/gold, but I have yet to see another with the Pepsi edition.

I've got the pepsi GMTII and have never looked back. One of the reasons I choose the pepsi was because everyone else, or so it would seem, flocked to the wine/black bezel.
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