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  #151  
Old September 12th, 2006, 08:53 PM
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honestly... if you want something more dressy you should consider the all black. people might say it's a Sub wanna be. but is it? the GMT Master II is a II and the original 1950's GMT Master is the original one. the GMT Master II now is available in different bezel color configurations. even if you do the pepsi bezel on the GMT Master II it's also an argument as to it being a wanna be GMT Master(original model). why the rivalry? if people want to be purist about the bezel color being original... why not get the 1950's original GMT Master? the original GMT and the GMTII are very different built watches anyways.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:00 PM
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Here's another shot:




Definitely above the wrist bone for me.

In contrast, Ho is Mr. Low:




Obviously, there's no "one way" to do it. Whatever is more comfortable for you. I'm bothered by the restriction in wrist movement, so I will put up with a tight bracelet. I'm guessing Ho is the opposite.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:02 PM
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I think the loose fit comes from backpacking. After many hours hiking it is common for the fingers/hands/ and for me the wrist area tends to swell. I believe that this is due to the hands being at ones side for a longer than normal period of time.

A tight watch band bothers me. Having to adjust a watch band bothers me even more. So I have become used to the slightly loose watch band.

The down side is that my watch does slide down to the wrist joint area. My concern with the larger crown of the Sub is that it may be uncomfortable.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:06 PM
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Yeah, that's about how I wear my watch.

So if the watch was on the other hand. Down low like this...


Would the crown feel too large?
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:08 PM
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My guess would be no. If the watch is loose enough to fall down to your hand, I doubt the crown would be digging. If you arched your hand backward, the watch would probably just move back up your wrist. Just a guess.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:12 PM
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Regardless. I am splitting hairs.


Greg, wanna grab some cash and see what we can do in Koreatown?
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:14 PM
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I think Greg needs to get his Sub, Rob needs to get his Pepsi GMT2, and Aaron needs to get his XXXX.

Now is as good a time as any.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traveltoad
My concern with the larger crown of the Sub is that it may be uncomfortable.

i wear the watch on the left sometimes. the crown never bothered me.
of course, wearing on the right, the crown doens't come into play.

feel it... feel the love...
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:21 PM
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I think Greg needs to get his Sub, Rob needs to get his Pepsi GMT2, and Aaron needs to get his XXXX.

Now is as good a time as any.


Actually, I think Greg would be more of an Explorer type ... low key, unassuming...

Something I really like about the Explorer, seems like they were only made in one version:

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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:25 PM
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Without doubt. I love the looks of the Explorer. That would be the one if it were larger.

I think that is why I was drawn to the dateless Sub... but it just seemed wrong.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:31 PM
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ok, no complication. how about this?


I stand corrected.

Hail to the king!
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:31 PM
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Aaron, I forgot to ask if you played with the expansion link on the Sub you tried on. I couldn't find any good shots of it, but it looks like this:







Peep that out when you're choosing between the Sub and black GMT2. I really like the Sub's expansion link.

I'm sure that in another world the dateless Sub would be sweet. However, in our world the Sub with date is such an icon and classic that omission of the date looks wrong. Don't fuck with the Sub.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:37 PM
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i can totally see greg w/ the explorer.

i can totally see rob w/ a 1950's Pepsi GMT.

i can totally see aaron w/ the black bezel GMTII.

i can totally see john w/ the Submariner... you have a bad ass moon watch... you are missing a bad ass deep sea "sub" watch. then you find a naughty korean chick to get you the GMT. bam!
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:42 PM
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Don't fuck with the Sub.

Especially with this one:

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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:43 PM
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... then you find a naughty korean chick to get you the GMT. bam!

BAM indeed.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:46 PM
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Hehe. That's how I know it's some cool shit. When others are looking at it and thinking, "what a pile of shit", that's when I know I scored.

Ok. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Especially with the Defender comparison. I hate the side profile of the D90. It doesn't seem like the same vehicle when rotated 45 degrees. Nonetheless, it's "utter lack of class" is what I dig about it.

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(A Korean getting married must get a Rolex. No other brand will suffice. Vacheron. Jaeger-LeCoultre. IWC. Bell & Ross. Omega. Patek Philippe. Breguet. Universal. Panerai. Yeah, whatever. They're all pretenders in the Korean Wedding World. It must be a Rolex. There's a rule.)

Shit, I should had a Korean wedding. Do the brides parents present the watch to the couple or does the couple score a set for themselves?
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Old September 12th, 2006, 09:59 PM
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this is pretty cool...



i bet rob is digging this too...
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Old September 12th, 2006, 10:05 PM
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and supposedly "A laser coronet with an additional "S" means that the crystal was exchanged during a service."

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Old September 12th, 2006, 10:14 PM
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Ok, so a question for those who wear their watch on the left side.

I like my watch a bit loose. So it does slide against my hand. The Sub's crown is quite large. Has anyone found that it pokes into the back of your hand?

By the way... the GMT feels very very right...

I've always worn my watch so it could slide for the back packing reasons. Also if you break your arm or sprain your wrist, sometimes it can swell up fast and I've just always been a little wary of wearing the watch too tight.

But I do get the callus:


Just to be clear, I'm not recommending the watch in the pic to Aaron, just trying to show where the crown hits my wrist. The TAG Heuer has been OK and it was a graduation present, but I'm not pushing it on anybody. I've already had to bring it back to life from a horrible saltwater death once, and if it didn't mean so much to me I probably wouldn't have fixed it.

As far as all the Rolex talk I gotta go with the black sub WITH DATE for Aaron and I think the Explorer is a very cool choice for Greg. Both very fitting. The GMT just doesn't do it for me.

But maybe I can confuse things a bit with the watch I find myself lusting after more and more:
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Old September 12th, 2006, 10:16 PM
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Shit, I should had a Korean wedding. Do the brides parents present the watch to the couple or does the couple score a set for themselves?


I'm far from sure about this, but I believe the Rolex thing started out as a consolation prize for the groom, who went out of pocket big bucks for the engagement ring. Because the groom has to pay high dollar for the engagement ring and doesn't really get anything in return, the bride's family scores the groom a Rolex as a quasi-dowry. It's quite the practical arrangement.

Over time, this custom somehow this turned into a pair of Rolexes for the bride and groom. I think the usual deal is for the bride's family to pay for the groom's Rolex and the groom's family to pay for the bride's Rolex. I'm not sure though. I think different people do it differently.

One thing bad about both the bride and groom getting Rolexes is that there is a natural tendency for the couple to get matching watches. Everything in the early stages is lovey dovey and the couple naturally want to get matching watches. This is a mistake, I think, because I think the Oyster Professionals are the coolest men's watches and there aren't really equivalent Lady watches. So the couple end up getting diluted, unisex watches.

The Rolex thing is far from universal. Some don't get the Rolex. Basically all of my college friends are married now, and only a few got the Rolex. Some got Constellations instead. Most didn't get diddly squat. What a rip off.

Many young couples today don't get the Rolex but instead get TAG's or something else, on the ground that "Rolexes are for old people". Suckers.

One of my college friends got a Rolex for his wedding, but the dragon lady mother-in-law chose the Rolex for him. He didn't even get to pick his own Rolex. When they went shopping, he kept trying to get the Sub, but the mother-in-law insisted on her damn choice. The dragon lady chose a stainless Datejust, with Oyster bracelet, plain bezel, and blue dial with arabic numbers. I've seen this watch. This pile of shit is hideous. It's fucking ugly. It's so watered down. It's a faggot watch in fact. I feel bad for my friend. He never wears that clump of shit other than to family functions and I can totally understand why. And it's not as if he can go out and get a Sub. That would look bad.

If that shit happened to me, the wedding would be off. Having that watch forced down my throat would be completely unacceptable. It's a harbinger of future bullshit from the in-laws. That fucking mother-in-law thought she was so right that she insisted on picking out my friend's watch. What the hell does she care what watch her son-in-law wants? It's all the same to her, or at least it should be. I mean, they all cost the same anyway. I swear, if that ever happens to me it's P7 time.

My brother played golf once with a caucasoid who was married to a Korean woman. The guy was telling my brother that the bride's family wanted to score him a Rolex for the wedding. But homeboy refused the Rolex on the ground that it was too expensive. This guy told my brother that he regretted that decision, because later on in the marriage this guy was expected to do all sorts of Korean things for the in-laws. So he had to perform his Korean familial duties but he didn't get the Korean Rolex. He got ripped off. Poor guy.
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Old September 12th, 2006, 10:27 PM
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yeah the laser engrave is totally up my alley, as well as a vintage pepsi GMT. I like the idea of a vintage piece. I just hope it doesn't cost extra.. lol.

for what it's worth I dont know if any iteration of the GMT series is wind up, but I think if im going to buy a high dollar precision time piece, damn it, I want to be able to wind it, none of this self winding crap.

I used to grow my beard out for a month at a time during the winters back home. I'd never let it go too far before cleaning it up but occasionaly my mustache would get to the length that I could begin to curl the ends. I would become obsessed with spinning my fingers trying to make the hairs into a point.

If I had a watch I know I would wind that thing like the mustache I never could. It would take all I had not to wind it every morning. It would be a healthy obsession.

Please tell me that at least the vintage GMT is wind up. I think now it would be a deal breaker if it's a self winder. I'm going searching in the mean time.

Edit: shit that was close for the past hour I had confused perpetual and seld winding....
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Old September 12th, 2006, 10:27 PM
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Because the groom has to pay high dollar for the engagement ring and doesn't really get anything in return

...just his partner in life till death and the mother of his children. But hey! Who's counting?

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If that shit happened to me, the wedding would be off. Having that watch forced down my throat would be completely unacceptable. It's a harbinger of future bullshit from the in-laws. That fucking mother-in-law thought she was so right that she insisted on picking out my friend's watch. What the hell does she care what watch her son-in-law wants? It's all the same to her, or at least it should be. I mean, they all cost the same anyway. I swear, if that ever happens to me it's P7 time.

How are you not married yet you charmer?!
Mothers! Lock up your daughters!
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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:05 PM
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yeah the laser engrave is totally up my alley, as well as a vintage pepsi GMT. I like the idea of a vintage piece. I just hope it doesn't cost extra.. lol.


any luck shopping?

http://www.watchnet.com/forums/tradi...pl?read=275242

you will find some clean ones for about $2500 ~ $3000


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Please tell me that at least the vintage GMT is wind up. I think now it would be a deal breaker if it's perpetual. I'm going searching in the mean time.

yeah... it's self-winding. you can still manually wind it if you wish.
keep on googlin'
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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:09 PM
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I thought I knew what perpetual meant and then convinced myself the opposite and now I am full circle. Basically perpetual self winding is one of Rolex trademark features from way back. As long as I can wind it also then I am happy.


2-3k is much easier to swallow than 5k I have this rangie in the garage I could fix and sell...

LOL
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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:15 PM
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Regardless. I am splitting hairs.


Greg, wanna grab some cash and see what we can do in Koreatown?

Sure. Let me know when you're going and I'll meet you.

Just don't let me walk out with an Explorer, a Sub and a Cellini Classic. I could see myself with all three.
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