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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:25 PM
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...just his partner in life till death and the mother of his children. But hey! Who's counting?

and work-your-ass-off-till-you-die father and husband doens't count for shit?
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Old September 12th, 2006, 11:26 PM
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Sure. Let me know when you're going and I'll meet you.

Just don't let me walk out with an Explorer, a Sub and a Cellini Classic. I could see myself with all three.


Greg, all you need/want is one explorer.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 04:57 AM
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There is no difference in expansion links between the Sub and the GMTII. They both use the Oyster bracelet with flip-lock clasp, and expansion link. The only difference would be in the model year of bracelet, if there is a change in design from one year to the next. But there should be no difference in design from GMT to Sub.

In fact, I want to get a new Rolex Oyster bracelet for my GMTII that has the solid end link (SEL) design change from the 1992 model I have now.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 07:31 AM
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As far as all the Rolex talk I gotta go with the black sub WITH DATE for Aaron and I think the Explorer is a very cool choice for Greg. Both very fitting. The GMT just doesn't do it for me.


It pains me to say this, but I agree with Jack.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 07:51 AM
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It pains me to say this, but I agree with Jack.

I really really liked the Explorer. If it was larger, it would be the one.

But it's not.

I think it is between the black GMT and the black Sub. I have not seen the red/black GMT, I don't know if they even exist right now, but I would like to see it as well.

I am leaning towards the Sub... but I would like to see both the GMT and Sub together (both in black) to be sure.

I have also heard that Rolex prices will go up around 15% at the end of the month.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 08:26 AM
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I have also heard that Rolex prices will go up around 15% at the end of the month.

I thought the price increase was for tomorrow.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 08:36 AM
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I thought the price increase was for tomorrow.

Are you sure you don't own stock in Rolex?
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Old September 13th, 2006, 08:44 AM
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I am leaning towards the Sub... but I would like to see both the GMT and Sub together (both in black) to be sure.

You'll never be sure.





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Old September 13th, 2006, 08:53 AM
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I really dig the red GMT hand.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:02 AM
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I thought I knew what perpetual meant and then convinced myself the opposite and now I am full circle. Basically perpetual self winding is one of Rolex trademark features from way back. As long as I can wind it also then I am happy.


Rob, you should play with a GMT. The crown pulls out to different lengths and you can adjust time, date, etc. One of the crown positions is for winding the watch manually.

Your manual winding requirement was also specified by NASA for its chronograph trials:


"6. The chronograph may be powered electrically, manually or the self-winding type; however, it must be capable of being manually wound and re-set."


I doubt you'll use the manual winding feature though. It' a pain to access. The crown s a screw-down type, and it's difficult to use it on a daily basis. Using it all the time may also compromise the crown's seal; I'm not sure. But it's nice to know that the manual capability is there. It's a nice touch.

Get a GMT in your hands. Feel the precision. Feel the love.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:04 AM
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Just don't let me walk out with an Explorer, a Sub and a Cellini Classic. I could see myself with all three.


Greg, that is sweet. I had always had you pegged for an anti-Rolex type of guy. But it's nice to know that you dig them.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:05 AM
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The only thing I am sure of so far is that this will be my first Rolex.

Seeing the watches in person does indeed change things.

As example. I was convinced that if I was to get the GMT it would be the red/blue bezel. In person, however, I changed my mind.

Another watch that didn't really do it for me on paper was the Sea-Dweller. In person I liked that watch a lot. I could see that one as my second Rolex.

I think the red/black GMT will not be the one. I want a watch that doesn't rely on being a Rolex to be dressy. I think the red/black GMT (as was the red/blue GMT) is a sport watch first. Yeah, once one recognizes that it is a Rolex it becomes dressy. But (IMO) without the brand recognition it not dress-up-able enough for me. The all black GMT doesn't have this "problem".

I also have yet to see an all black Sub in person. I think I need to before I make a final decision.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:09 AM
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You'll never be sure.







Damn. Look at that. How can you go wrong with any one of those? Each is bad ass in its own way.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:09 AM
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Matt,

Here's a pic of the man's version of the Lady Datejust that I think would be nice for your girlfriend:




That's a very clean watch. When I think "Rolex", I don't think of a GMT or Sub or whatever. Rather, I think of a steel Datejust with Jubilee bracelet, faceted bezel, silver dial, and hash marks. The Lady Datejust version of this same watch is equally clean and elegant. And it's so Rolex.

I prefer the mother of pearl and diamonds for a Lady Datejust, but the silver dial with hash marks is very clean and elegant.

I'm not sure if Rolex offers this same watch with mother of pearl dial, but with hash marks instead of diamonds. That might be another nice watch for your girlfriend.


A buddy of mine has that watch and I like it alot. Also, I really like the look of a woman wearing a man's watch, but unfortunately, young Bridgette is very dainty. Her wrist are absolutely tiny, and I doubt that she would feel the love on a larger watch.

I would, but I guess it's more important that she be ecstatic about it instead of me.

I think it has to be a ladies watch. I like the one you posted a page or two back. Now I just have to determine if I want to swing it or not.

P.S - Aaron, just do it. I just did it a while back and haven't had a moment of buyer's remorse. I've had the opposite -- I think I've caught watch fever.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:13 AM
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I really like this watch:

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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:25 AM
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Rob, you should play with a GMT. The crown pulls out to different lengths and you can adjust time, date, etc. One of the crown positions is for winding the watch manually.

the 1675 GMT Master rob is looking for doesn't have the date adjust feature. date is adjusted by manual 24hr turn. at least mine doesn't. "GMT" hand(red arrow) cannot be set independently like the newer models.

on the newer models this is how the GMT feature is used...

"Cosmetic appeal aside, the GMT Master II is a very functional tool for those who travel between time zones – here’s how it works: Simply set the red arrow “GMT” hand to track the time of your home time zone, but matching it to the corresponding hour on the 24 hr. graduated markings on the bi-directionally rotating bezel. Next, set the “standard” hour hand (the one with the Mercedes symbol) to the time of whatever time zone you’re in currently. As you move between time zones, you can move the “standard” hour hand up or back in hour increments – without actually stopping the movement to do it. The beauty of the GMT Master II functionality is the ability to adjust the time without having to stop the second hand. It is this functionality that separates watches like the Rolex GMT Master II, and the Omega Seamaster GMT from other, lesser functioning watches."

also this is something for aaron to consider regarding crown size between the GMTII and the SUb

"One of the design features which are a point of criticism for the GMT Master II is the crown size. The Rolex “Twinlock” crown used on the GMT Master II is smaller, and less water resistant than the Triplock crown used on the Submariner and Sea-Dweller. The GMT Master II has a water resistance rating of 100 meters, or about 330 feet. From a functional standpoint, I do not find the smaller Twinlock crown difficult to use, and given that it’s designed to be a pilot’s watch and not a dive watch, the water resistance rating is appropriate. However, the more sizable Triplock crown is such a joy to use, and is more aesthetically pleasing, so it’s understandable that many would like to see it incorporated into the Master II."


more info here
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:38 AM
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There is no difference in expansion links between the Sub and the GMTII. They both use the Oyster bracelet with flip-lock clasp, and expansion link. The only difference would be in the model year of bracelet, if there is a change in design from one year to the next. But there should be no difference in design from GMT to Sub.

In fact, I want to get a new Rolex Oyster bracelet for my GMTII that has the solid end link (SEL) design change from the 1992 model I have now.


I think you scored on your GMT2 bracelet. I have yet to see a GMT2 with the Sub's clasp. Thus far, every GMT2 I've seen had the clasp without the flip lock or the shorty clasp with the flip lock. But I haven't seen a GMT2 with the Sub's longish clasp and expansion link. I believe the current GMT2's have the "Oysterlock" clasp, which is the shorty clasp with flip lock, but without the expansion link.

I'm not "into" Rolexes so I don't know the variations between year to year and so on. But I think you scored.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 09:42 AM
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A buddy of mine has that watch and I like it alot. Also, I really like the look of a woman wearing a man's watch, but unfortunately, young Bridgette is very dainty. Her wrist are absolutely tiny, and I doubt that she would feel the love on a larger watch.


I posted that pic because I couldn't find a pic of a a Lady Datejust in that configuration (steel, silver dial with hash marks, faceted bezel, Jubilee bracelet). But I intended that only as an illustration of that configuration and not as a recommendation for a man watch for your girlfriend.

Such a Lady Datejust would be very sweet. Even sweeter would be the one with the mother of pearl dial and the diamond numbers.

Tell her you'd marry her all over again. A diamond is forever.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 10:11 AM
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the 1675 GMT Master rob is looking for doesn't have the date adjust feature. date is adjusted by manual 24hr turn. at least mine doesn't. "GMT" hand(red arrow) cannot be set independently like the newer models.


Man, what a rip off. For me it must be GMT2 then.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 11:13 AM
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You'll never be sure.







Ho

Are these part of your private collection?

Or is this another chapter of your Rolex campaign? By the way, that pic of the coronet was awesome. I didn't know that was a feature.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 11:25 AM
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Ho

Are these part of your private collection?

oh man, i wish. LOL
mine is all worn out.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 11:45 AM
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oh man, i wish. LOL
mine is all worn out.


I disagree. Yours is worn in. Not worn out.
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Old September 13th, 2006, 12:01 PM
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Oh shit, TAG even makes a copy of the two-tone blue Sub:


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Old September 13th, 2006, 12:21 PM
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Aquaracer?


Isn't that an aftershave?
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Old September 13th, 2006, 12:55 PM
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