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Old September 2nd, 2009, 11:26 AM
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One of the vehicles here has no eyebrow at all:


The other vehicles have the eyebrows, so I'm guessing the first vehicle lost the eyebrow somehow. Perhaps the chop job was insufficient and the 9.00 yanked the eyebrow off the wing? Who knows.

The SAS are waving their Union Jacks so that they don't get tagged by American aircraft. And note the kill marks on the wings. Hehe.

These are huge tires.

That pic is awesome too.
I love the topless UNIMOGs and the guy dressed as an ME-109 pilot.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 11:54 AM
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I'm not sure you can appreciate how weak the 2.5 NA is unless you've driven it. It's bad. If you were running 9.00s on an otherwise normal 2.5 NA MOD 110 you'd be in a world of hurt when the truck became a bullet magnet. It would be one slow getaway.

Oh shit. I forgot about the 2.5 naturally aspirated detail.

I have only driven one, with 7.5 XML's. It was pathetic indeed.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 12:18 PM
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Precisely.
I'm not saying the 2.5 NA isn't fun. It is. And it's utterly tough and reliable. I think that's the reason the British Army kept it around for so long, skipping the various iterations of the J block 2.5 Turbo and 200 Tdi as well as all the V8s and jumping straight to the 300Tdi in the Wolf.

If I had a Series truck I'd probably rather have the 2.5 NA in it than any other motor, but if I wanted to run a big tire on a Defender it wouldn't be anywhere near my first choice.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 12:18 PM
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These SAS trucks were indeed V8 powered.

"The One-Ten DPV (in the ##KD## series) which replaced the original Pinkies, is a much less camera-shy beast than its older brother. Many Gulf War photographs have surfaced over the last decade.
Like the original Series One, the teenager of the SAS Land Rover family was also crewed by three men and heavily armed, but it carried four times the payload (officially in real life all combat Land Rovers are heavily overloaded). It had capabilities that would stupefy the SAS driver of thirty years before.
Powered by the V8 petrol engine and with coil suspension instead of the cart springs used on the Series One, it was capable of penetrating deep behind enemy lines in desert conditions like its 1942 Jeep predecessor, but in a degree of comfort unimaginable to WWII heroes, at undreamt of speed and over unimaginable distances. The SAS DPV fighting columns of the 1991 Gulf War were to spend literally weeks behind enemy lines."

http://www.lrm.co.uk/Archive%20Index...dthelines.html
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 12:29 PM
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I have no doubt about the limited "power" available from the NA 2.5 diesel

Precisely why I was surprised to see one...in an ex MoD 110 at the Solihull rally in Leadville...and it's driver saying how pleased he was with its performance.

Sadly, I did not find an opportunity to pore over it and get photos for all

Have I mentioned that you guys are absolutely no help in making a decision as to how to paint the 109?

It's currently the typical multiple layers of green and black....I'm torn between a Civvy colour, an update of more recent sand/grey or just a re-coat of the ugly (?) paint its been wearing for the last 38 years

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Old September 2nd, 2009, 01:06 PM
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Have I mentioned that you guys are absolutely no help in making a decision as to how to paint the 109?

It's currently the typical multiple layers of green and black....I'm torn between a Civvy colour, an update of more recent sand/grey or just a re-coat of the ugly (?) paint its been wearing for the last 38 years

I struggled with the same thing.

There is a middle ground between keeping a military look and going wannabe civilian:

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Old September 2nd, 2009, 01:12 PM
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Hmmm, a little "flattner" in the Limestone / Pastel Green / Marine Blue....that might just work

You realise that means more interior paint work.

Damn you Jack...go shoot some defenseless doves, will ya'
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 01:15 PM
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I just looked through the old Action pages and found some more pics of SAS Defenders with what I think are 9.00s:


That looks older than the first Gulf War, but I can't be sure. But at a minimum the vehicle is set up like the Gulf War SAS Defenders so it's close in time.

The tires there aren't XZL's but you can tell they're big. They look a lot wider than a 8.25. They look about as wide as 265s, which makes me think they're 9.00s.

Also, the spare on the hood is looking awfully big. I have the spare tire mounting kit and planned to install it on my Defender so that I could have a second spare for Dusy- and Mexico-style trips. But I couldn't bring myself to drill the hood. But when Frank Motley was at the shop, I test-fitted an extra 8.25 wheel I had onto his hood and it looked bitchin. It didn't look huge like the tire on this Defender.

Incidentally, I love those Huskies with the relocated solenoid boxes.

This one is definitely from the Gulf War:


8.25s aren't even close to being that wide.

I agree, that thing is wide.

Look at the 7.50 mounted on my hood:


It sits on the bushings well above the hood itself. You can clearly see the gap.

But this monster tire looks like it's actually resting on the hood itself:


John, you should go for it on the hood mount kit.
Hoods are actually relatively plentiful. You can even have two if you want. It takes less than a minute to remove the 90/110 hood. Any time I work in the engine bay I take the hood completely off. That way you could keep your NAS hood intact and have a second with the tire mount kit.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 04:40 PM
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John, you should go for it on the hood mount kit.
Hoods are actually relatively plentiful. You can even have two if you want. It takes less than a minute to remove the 90/110 hood. Any time I work in the engine bay I take the hood completely off. That way you could keep your NAS hood intact and have a second with the tire mount kit.

That's an interesting idea, Jack. Might have to think about that.

As one of the few people I know who runs a hood-mounted spare, but who has also wheeled without them, how do you feel about the visibility issues caused by the spare on the bonnet?

-N
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 11:03 PM
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The SAS 110's used in the first Gulf war were petrol-powered V8's.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 08:05 AM
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Precisely why I was surprised to see one...in an ex MoD 110 at the Solihull rally in Leadville...and it's driver saying how pleased he was with its performance.

That shit cracks me up. It's always like that. You could have a Briggs and Stratton in there and some people would still praise its performance.

Take the V8 Defender for example, the envy of many Europeans for its power and refinement. It amazes me how people talk about it as having decent power. It's hard to believe, but i've even heard of people that tow with them. I think the power is pathetic. Even before accessorising it, it's pathetic.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 10:32 AM
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That's an interesting idea, Jack. Might have to think about that.

As one of the few people I know who runs a hood-mounted spare, but who has also wheeled without them, how do you feel about the visibility issues caused by the spare on the bonnet?

-N


Nadir, Look at that 7.50:










You get the idea.
It barely sticks up above the dash. It's so thin it really doesn't make any difference at all. Furthermore, for most truly difficult terrain you use the Force anyways. It's not like you can see the obstacle you're on.

I did try running a 255/85 Dunlop on the hood of the Black NAS 110 pictured below.


That wasn't so good. The tire was so wide that I couldn't see up the trail on Defense Mine in Death Valley. I think with 255 or 265 it would get annoying, but with any of the nice skinny sizes it works out well.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:02 PM
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Old September 9th, 2009, 04:43 AM
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Maybe a newbie question... when was that circle L logo used?
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Old September 9th, 2009, 06:22 AM
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Old September 9th, 2009, 06:25 AM
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I did not know that the Leyland logo was used with the Range Rover name.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 08:27 AM
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Check it out: http://d-90.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21710

Somebody in Colorado wants to swap a hood with the spare set-up for one without. Looks like outright buy is also an option. Sounds like it's in good shape, and Alpine white.
One of you should go for it.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 08:48 PM
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I did not know that the Leyland logo was used with the Range Rover name.

British Motor Corp. became British Leyland in the 60's and most of the cool English cars were part of BL-Austin, MG, Jaguar, Triumph, Austin-Healey, Land Rover, etc.. When my 1989 RRC was built Land Rover was owned 80% by British Aerospace and 20% by Honda.

You know the rest of the story.

If you look at your LT230, chances are it still has the BL logo cast into the side. The two I have do.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 11:01 PM
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Check it out: http://d-90.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21710

Somebody in Colorado wants to swap a hood with the spare set-up for one without. Looks like outright buy is also an option. Sounds like it's in good shape, and Alpine white.
One of you should go for it.

Apparently it's for sale for $450:
http://d-90.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21727

Pending pics, that could be pretty fair.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 12:22 PM
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Did any of the CT trucks run 8.25s or was it always 7.50s?




I think the above are all 7.50s but some of those tires look big in the pics, especially mounted on the back door.

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Old September 14th, 2009, 02:07 PM
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Those are 7.50s or 7.00s. The nominal specs usually list the XCLs as 7.00s, but I think they're 7.50s.

Steve Cooper has the 8.25 XLs and they look HUGE. They look considerably larger than the 8.25 XZLs.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 08:23 PM
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You know how John complains about the chumps on HKPRO who go to the Gray Room and take pictures of all the wrong guns?
Well this moron on ExPo went to the Heritage Motor Centre in the UK and check out the pics he took:






He was all over that stupid Tickford and never even noticed Range Rover Number FUCKING One right next to it.
This chump was also snapping pics of a Cuthbertson conversion like it was cool.
He had no idea.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 08:24 AM
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I'd love to see photo's from 100 different angles of that Range Rover.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 08:46 AM
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Just look at that beautiful silver Rostyle on that Rangie.

That rim alone deserves at least a dozen different pics.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 05:59 PM
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