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Old March 2nd, 2007, 07:56 AM
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Starbucks coffee

I found it interesting that my local Starbucks coffee location generates around three thousand dollars in gross daily revenue.

Their average sale is four dollars ($4), that's seven hundred and fifty customers in a sixteen hour day - everyday.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 08:04 AM
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Almost one per minute. Wow.


BTW I hate Starbucks.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 08:22 AM
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Aaron, don't be a hater. Starbucks introduced high-end coffee to the US and made it popular. If it wasn't for Starbucks, there wouldn't be the demand for the small coffee shops that crank out the really good stuff.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 08:43 AM
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i don't dislike starbucks for the powerhouse they've become, mostly because their coffee doesn't do it for me. i suppose if i was an iced, frappa, mocha, or whatever drinker then i'd feel different. i guess they're good at that, plain coffee on the other hand.....not so great.

not to mention, there's nothing worse than trying to pick up a regular cup of coffee with four or five of these complicated order people in front of you.

i do agree with mike though, they did pave the way.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 08:48 AM
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Aaron, don't be a hater. Starbucks introduced high-end coffee to the US and made it popular. If it wasn't for Starbucks, there wouldn't be the demand for the small coffee shops that crank out the really good stuff.

I agree with that. They are also one of the pioneers of $6 coffee drinks.

But Starbucks coffee has never been good. And as they have become a huge company it is even worse IMO.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 08:52 AM
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Ok, I'll get you to eat your words. The next time I see you guys, I'll bring some Starbucks beans down and change your mind. I'm not a fan of the store-made drip coffee either, but I can make some mighty fine french press coffee using their beans.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 08:55 AM
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Ok, I'll get you to eat your words. The next time I see you guys, I'll bring some Starbucks beans down and change your mind. I'm not a fan of the store-made drip coffee either, but I can make some mighty fine french press coffee using their beans.

I'll send you some Peet's with the next bottle of Youri.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 08:58 AM
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Ok, I'll get you to eat your words..

or drink, as the case may be.

no doubt you can probably make a decent cup with their beans and a press. i don't know about aaron, but i'm talking about their in-store brewing. not sure if it's their method, or their ratio, but it's nasty.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:00 AM
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Aaron, its funny that you mentioned Youri. My brother in law from Ohio was in town a few weeks ago and we had some Youri straight up Martinis. He was blown away by the stuff. He called me when he got back to Ohio and said that there state liquor stores don't carry it either.

Peet's roasts some decent coffee, but I had a horrible in store experience. The drip coffee that they served me was the most bitter, over-roasted coffee I've ever had.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:03 AM
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or drink, as the case may be.

no doubt you can probably make a decent cup with their beans and a press. i don't know about aaron, but i'm talking about their in-store brewing. not sure if it's their method, or their ratio, but it's nasty.

Yes. I am also referring to in store coffee.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:03 AM
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or drink, as the case may be.

no doubt you can probably make a decent cup with their beans and a press. i don't know about aaron, but i'm talking about their in-store brewing. not sure if it's their method, or their ratio, but it's nasty.

French press can be a little chewy, so eat or drink can be appropriate.

I assure you that I can make a very good cup of coffee using their beans.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 09:08 AM
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Aaron, its funny that you mentioned Youri. My brother in law from Ohio was in town a few weeks ago and we had some Youri straight up Martinis. He was blown away by the stuff. He called me when he got back to Ohio and said that there state liquor stores don't carry it either.

Peet's roasts some decent coffee, but I had a horrible in store experience. The drip coffee that they served me was the most bitter, over-roasted coffee I've ever had.

Unfortunately, most chain coffee shops are not much better (in terms of service) than any fast food joint. It's the small coffee shops where it's at!!!

The last time Gab and I were in SF we stopped by Blue Front Cafe on Haight St. It is owned by (I think) three brothers and run by two of them. We used to go in there 3-4 times a week. Obviously that stopped when we moved to LA 6 years ago. The guy STILL remembered what we drink! Awesome.


Do I need to add your brother in law to the Youri mailing list?
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 10:01 AM
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The drip coffee that they served me was the most bitter, over-roasted coffee I've ever had.

That seems to be true of many coffee stores. I don't know why, but at many of these places bitter over-roasted beans are though to be synonymous with 'gourmet' coffee.

Although i can't stand their drip coffee, i don't dislike Starbucks Espresso. It's nothing to write home about, but it's not bad. I like their 'solo macchiado', and i ask for extra foam. They make the solo macchiado by adding one shot of espresso over a bed of milk foam in a very small cup. On occasion, i get exceptional foam - the kind of foam that will hang from a spoon turned upside down !

The thing that cracks me up about Starbucks are all the ridiculous names they've come up with for the various serving sizes; short, tall, grande, vinte.

What a crack up, who came up with that bullshit.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 10:17 AM
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The thing that cracks me up about Starbucks are all the ridiculous names they've come up with for the various serving sizes; short, tall, grande, vinte.

What a crack up, who came up with that bullshit.

And if you try to order a "large" they will correct you... "Did you mean grande?"
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 10:40 AM
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If you're visiting Napa Valley, try this shop. I really enjoyed their coffee:

Http://www.napavalleycoffee.com

There are a whole crapload of good coffee places in Seattle.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 10:57 AM
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There are a whole crapload of good coffee places in Seattle.

Yes there are. I can get better coffee at my grocery store than across the parking lot at the Starbucks.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 12:28 PM
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And if you try to order a "large" they will correct you... "Did you mean grande?"

tsk tsk aaron. get your silly lingo down "vente" is large. "grande" is medium. makes sense huh?

i'm the same as you though, i refuse to say it. i still ask for a large.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 12:41 PM
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tsk tsk aaron. get your silly lingo down "vente" is large. "grande" is medium. makes sense huh?

If you say so.

What the hell is a "vente" anyway?
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 01:04 PM
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vente as in 20oz.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 02:23 PM
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vente as in 20oz.

Ok... well... I guess that makes sense...


Man, I was trying to figure out in what language vente could mean "huge" or something. lol
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 02:25 PM
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Venti 20 oz. hot, 24 oz. cold. For some reason the iced Venti cups hold four more ounces; for this reason, Venti espresso drinks have an extra shot of espresso in them, and cost a few cents more than their hot equivalents. Pronounced "VENN-tee," and reportedly means twenty in Italian.

http://www.quicksilverweb.net/sbucks/sbcharts.htm
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 02:53 PM
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for a while, I was all into the coffee thing. dark roast, light roast, french press, drip, cone filter, flat filter, gold filter, water temperature, etc.

but it was too much for a damn cup of coffee.

well, these days I just do the folgers thing. or even better, the U-Line gourmet coffee with a hint of hazelnut. LOL
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 04:03 PM
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Folgers? This coming from someone who has competed in the ICS? YUK!

Making good coffee is simple:

Get good freshly roasted beans
Boil water
After water comes to boil, turn off the heat source and afterwards grind the beans
Transfer the grounds into the french press
After the water has rested for about a minute after boiling pour the water over the grounds and stir
Allow the grounds to steep for 3-4 minutes and press the plunger down

Enjoy!
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 04:15 PM
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I used to hate Starbucks because I take my coffee black (like my ladies) and thought it was too strong for me. I grew up on donut shop and McDonald's coffee, so the Starbucks stuff was really strong at first. It also tasted burned/overroasted to me because of what I was accustomed to drinking.

But I've grown accustomed to Starbucks coffee now and don't mind it at all. I stop at Starbucks every saturday morning now before I hit the shop.

The main thing I can't stand about Starbucks is the standard greeting I get when I walk up to the counter:

Starbucks kid: "Hi, how are you?"

John: [Why the fuck would you care how I am? Take my damn order.] "I'll have a large coffee and a ...."
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 04:54 PM
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John: "I'll have a large coffee and a ...."

Quote:
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traveltoad: "Did you mean grande?"

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